Presidential Management Style: Hillary Clinton

This spring I had a really difficult time as an undecided voter for whom I should support. At the beginning of the year, I wanted someone with executive experience given the various challenges that the next president will face when s/he enters office in January 2009. Needless to say, I became really concerned that the top tier candidates Clinton, Obama and Edwards only had legislative, not executive experience. After all, we haven't elected a legislator to become president since JFK in 1960. But then after reading books about presidential leadership including The Presidential difference: leadership style from FDR to Clinton by Fred Greenstein, I realized that it was a very superficial viewpoint to just look at say a vice president or governor b/c they had executive experience. So I decided to expand my views to include different measures in assessing each candidate on the Democratic side. One of the issues that Greenstein evaluates in the book "The Presidential Difference" is a president's management style.
http://www.amazon.com/Presidential-Diffe rence-Leadership-Style-George/dp/0691119 090/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-1735949-5102033? ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193363636&a mp;sr=8-1

Greenstein argues that a president's inability to organize the executive branch can have a debilitating effect on the entire administration. If a president doesn't have the management skills to rally colleagues and structure their activities effectively then the whole agenda can quickly become unworkable.

Greenstein identified several key elements in determining which presidents possessed the best management skills. In evaluating a candidate,

1.) Does the candidate have the ability to forge a team; are the staffers working as a team to perform a shared goal or are they competing against each other for their own aggrandizement?
2.) Does the candidate have the ability to get the most out of their team? Does the candidate use the unique gifts of his/her staff members as resources for the campaign?
3.) Does the candidate minimize the tendency of staffers to provide advice that s/he only wants to hear or does s/he foster an enviroment where subordinates feel safe to offer advice that could potentially be unwelcome by the candidate?
4.) Is the candidate proficient in creating an effective organization?
5.) How does the candidate gather and synthesize various pieces of advice and information?

Interestingly enough, the Associated Press wrote a story this summer about each candidate's management style on the campaign trail and how it might provide guidance to voters on how they would perform in office.  
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articl es/2007/07/20/2008_campaigns_showcase_ma nagement_skill/

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"There definitely is something to be learned from the way candidates manage their campaigns," said Costas Panagopoulos, director of Fordham University's campaign management program. "It's a fine line candidates have to walk between being too involved and being uninvolved, and the same could be said about their administrations. There are certainly parallels."
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This election, some candidates view the campaign as an opportunity to display their leadership abilities or, at least in one case, counter the notion that they're not experienced enough to run the country.

"One of the things that I hope over the course of this campaign I show is the capacity to manage this pretty unwieldy process of a political race," Obama said in May. "And to make sure that people have a sense of how I deal with adversity, how I deal with mistakes, who do I have around me to make sure that, you know, we're executing on the things that need to get done."
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The AP article then goes on to describe the management styles of various candidates on both sides of the aisle.

In tomorrow's edition, the New York Times devotes an entire article to Hillary Clinton's management style. In "The Evolution of Hillary Clinton as Manager," Mark Leibovich presents Clinton as a no-nonsense, methodical, efficient and disciplined manager.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/us/pol itics/26cnd-clinton.html?ref=politics
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Her background as a boss, powerful spouse and advocate could signal Mrs. Clinton's approach to the job for which she is now applying. She is credited with hiring capable, loyal staff members, though her top aides have also been called insular and needlessly defensive at times. Friends and advisers say Mrs. Clinton has been a diligent student of her own mistakes, and her style has evolved over the years from a tendency to micromanage to a greater willingness to delegate; from a bent toward perfectionism to one closer to pragmatism; from a go-for-broke mentality to one more willing to compromise.
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One of the most difficult things to ascertain about a presidential candidate is how they would run the executive branch. Would their management style mesh with the responsibilities of running a large organization OR would their style interfere with the execution of their policies? Unless we were present at the headquarters of each candidate on a daily basis, this type of information would be very hard to come by. That's why I appreciate this NY Times article in getting people who once worked with Hillary at the White House as well as her staffers now to discuss the evolution of her management skills.

One of the reasons why I'm supporting Hillary is that she has demonstrated her flexibility in changing her leadership style when she realized that it wasn't effective. As the article noted, she has learned not to micromanage. A micromanager-in-chief can get lost in the minutia and fail to see the big picture. From what I understand, the media derided President Carter for his micro-managing style, ie for choosing the White House's gardner etc.    

The article also provides some answers to the questions posed by Greenstein which I delineated above. For instance, Hillary has forged a team--Hillaryland--which appears to be working well together on a shared goal of Hillary winning the Democratic nomination. They all appear to be working to the best of their unique abilities based upon the campaign they've run.

The article raises the question whether Hillaryland is too insular for opposing viewpoints to be presented within campaign circles. Senator Clinton addresses this concern in the article:
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Having a tight inner circle can cut both ways, Professor Mayer said. With Mr. Bush, he said, "it looked fine to have this group of loyal Texans in there, until his approval ratings went under 40 percent and there were no fresh eyes to see the mistakes."

Mrs. Clinton, not surprisingly, bristles at such comparisons. She contrasts what she calls the "echo chamber" around the president with her own willingness to expand her own circle, hear disputes and solicit opposing views.

The people who thrive within Mrs. Clinton's "process" are those who best provide the currency of choices. "She wants to know, `O.K., what are my options here?'" Ms. Solis Doyle said. "She wants a Plan A, a Plan B and a Plan C. She wants recommendations. Then she'll make a decision."
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Patti Solis Doyle said something similiar in her talk at GW over a week ago...
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She told the audience that people in HRC's campaign have very strong personalities and they often have opinions which they disagree with each other. She said that was fine. Hillary prefers hearing divergent viewpoints and then making decisions based upon the best argument.
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http://mydd.com/story/2007/10/16/232840/ 50

I wish that the media would write more stories like this NY Times article. In some ways it might be more telling about what type of executive that the candidate will become as president. The media and quite frankly the blogosphere focus a great deal on the communication style of presidential candidates and not how they would govern if elected. A presidential candidate can have all the good ideas in the world, but if s/he does not have the management skills to carry out his/her agenda, then at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what ideas they propose on the campaign trail....



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If you support a candidate other than HRC (none / 0)

what is the management style of your candidate like? Does his style fit the demands of the office? Please describe the effectiveness of their executive control over their campaigns.

Thanks for reading the diary....


by ademption on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:09:58 PM EST

Great diary. (none / 0)

Someone posted something over at dailykos about how she surrounds herself with advisors both women and men, leaning more toward women.  That's totally different than any president we've ever had.  I'm not sure it fits in with your piece but I think it suggests a different set of advisors in a President Hillary Clinton than we are used to.

Hillary definately listens to divergent voices.  I've read she even spoke with Code Pink before her infamous AUMF vote.  People are often loyal to a good boss.  That's to be expected.


by bookgrl on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:21:32 PM EST
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The video of the Code Pink meeting is on YouTube.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:25:53 PM EST
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Did you see the Code Pinkers making absolute fools of themselves at the Condi Rice hearing today? They really need a good tactician. They could be so much more effective if they didn't act like spoiled teenagers.


by hwc on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:30:31 PM EST
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I saw that. It was disgusting. Protesting is fine, but getting in the face of the SecState is inexcusable. I actually don't like Code Pink, so I have a little bias here. I just can't stand them.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 12:22:48 AM EST
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Yes, she does surround herself with many women advisors. I was very happy to read the inclusion of women in particular women of color in top roles in her campaign. This Washington Post article from last spring was very enlightening about HRC as a manager:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/06/20/AR2007062002567. html

Gatekeepers of Hillaryland
The Candidate's Coterie From Her White House Days Is Back Together, All for One and One for All

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Fifteen years after Clinton first brought these women together at the White House, the "board" has officially reconvened to help map her unprecedented effort to follow in her husband's footsteps. They are acutely aware their work is making history. Once seen as a tight little sorority, today the group -- happily self-described as "Hillaryland"-- is at the center of a front-running presidential campaign. Never have so many women operated at such a high level in one campaign, working with a discipline and a loyalty and a legendary secrecy rarely seen at this level of American politics.
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by ademption on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:27:57 PM EST
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More descriptions of HRC's management style from the Hillaryland article:

Indeed, there is a well-fixed impression in political circles that Hillary Clinton, 59, long has had a bunker mentality, following the raucous 1992 presidential campaign that exposed her husband's infidelity. Inside the Clinton White House, she was the one most reluctant to release information -- and the one to advocate the quick punch back at critics.

But among her own staff, she has cultivated a nurturing culture of collegiality and loyalty, a leadership style based in teamwork, and often favored by women, that values consensus over hierarchy.

"She never lets anyone criticize her staff," says Neel Lattimore, who was a spokesman for her in the White House. "The loyalty is a two-way street."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/06/20/AR2007062002567_ 2.html

"[Clinton] hates behind-the-scenes maneuvering. If you have a difference of opinion, say so, but when a decision is made, it's made," says the consultant, who started out as an adviser to Bill Clinton.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/06/20/AR2007062002567_ 3.html


by ademption on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:44:31 PM EST
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Thanks for the diary (none / 0)

The New York Times article you link is really a fabulous read.

Having a tight agenda and insisting on presentations of multiple options is so crucial to effective Presidential management.

There are so many decisions required of a President that efficiency and proper preparation by the staff are essential to any kind of organized effort.

I think a lot can be learned from how each candidate manages the grueling campaign. Can they stay on message? Do they have campaign staff leaking all over Washington like a sieve? Is the candidate's time used wisely? Is the candidate making good decisions when problems arise? Does the campaign have a strategy and can they stick to it? Does the campaign accurately identify weaknesses and take steps, over time, to address them? Does the campaign accurately identify strengths and aggressively promote them?

This stuff all goes right to the candidate's ability to manange an organization.


by hwc on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:20:59 PM EST

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I agree.  Another great  NYT write up on Hillary was one detailing her political evolution(I'm bummed because I had it bookmarked-nomore) from college onward.  What both articles reveal is that she is very goal oriented, and wants to see concrete results for her efforts.  On a political level, this translate into wanting to do more than make pretty speeches about what she is going to do.  She actually wants to go back to the voters with something to show for her promises.  I think her focus and competence really comes through in her campaigning and hence why she is doing so well.


by Kingstongirl on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 12:06:03 AM EST
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I like the NYT article. Senators rarely get elected and there's a reason. Hillary is an exception. I'm very impressed with the way she handled Hsu controversy.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:22:56 PM EST

Second place (none / 0)

I think I would have to give the second place prize so far to the Romney campaign. Their candidate has some glaring flaws (like being the world's most brazen, sociopathic, flip-flopper in the history of politics), but they have been running a professional campaign. Working hard, addressing weaknesses, working a plan, and so forth.

Worst campaign award would have to go to McCain for blowing through an ungodly amount of money early with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Obama's campaign has been impressive from the fundraising side.


by hwc on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:28:16 PM EST

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agree.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:29:01 PM EST
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I would have to agree with you about Romney. He seems very goal-oriented and is executing his campaign gameplan very methodically.

I remember this summer Mark Halperin on the Charlie Rose show mentioned that the Clintons were talking about the Romneys during the Bill/Hillary event in Iowa on the July 4th weekend. The Clintons stopped at an ice cream place and reporters overheard them talking after they met the Romneys at one of the July the 4th parades. Well, anyway, Halperin said that the Clintons were really impressed by Romney's organization. And Halperin was impressed that the Clintons were following the GOP race so closely even back then.

I wonder if there will be a Clinton v Romney matchup after all?


by ademption on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:38:27 PM EST
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god i hope so. he is going to be by far the easiest to beat- he looks so superficial and naive in contrast to clinton


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 12:03:19 AM EST
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Mark Penn thinks that Rudy benefitted and Romney was hurt by John McCain's collapse. His reasoning is that "there is only so much tough guy vote".

If McCain hadn't imploded, Rudy and McCain would be splitting the tough guy vote, leaving Romney ahead. McCain's collapse handed the entire tough guy vote to Giuliani.

Will we see Hillary versus Romney? Beats me. I have yet to hear anyone try to predict the winner (sic) of the Republican primaries.

Rudy's pedophile priest friend (best man at his first wedding, preacher at his second wedding, current employee of Giuliani Partners) hit the news cycle this week. One of these days, the media is going to sink their teeth into these scandals. Romney and Thompson need to hammer Rudy. The guy was not only defrocked for molesting young parishioners, but was instrumental in the overall NY diocese cover up.


by hwc on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 12:08:28 AM EST
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Yeah, I guess there aren't enough GOP soccer moms. Romney has been targeting mostly women with his ads. If Thompson and Rudy could fight over the tough guy vote, Romney could slip in there maybe.

Good grief!! Rudy has so much dirt. Our side is going to have concentrate on what dirt to emphasize. I think those security/surburban women would have a problem with Rudy sticking up for the pedophile. Unlike Rudy who is so arrogant, Romney would have dumped the priest at the first word of trouble....


by ademption on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 12:20:05 AM EST
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Nice article.

I like this:

"Fail to plan, plan to fail" is a favorite platitude of Mrs. Clinton.

and:

"That's the real management challenge," Mrs. Clinton said, heading out the door, "Staying sane."

Organized, diligent and realistic management style, plus she learns from her mistakes. Sounds good to me.


by LakersFan on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 03:35:24 PM EST


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